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Food Disinfo: Natural Solutions Foundation

Postby Justin Boland » March 12th, 2009, 11:49 am

DID YOU KNOW:

The Natural Solutions Foundation built the largest health freedom grass roots/ grass tops organization in the US and elsewhere with more than 200,000 supporters, utilizing our web sites, our YouTube channel and similar electronic means.


really?

Kicked up a hornet's nest that connects all my old research with my new food obsession. This is a story that involves food, covert operations, professional disinformation, and aliens.

Remember that sooper-paranoid article about HR 875 that got everyone so spooked in the first place? That was from the Natural Solutions Foundation, written by Linn Cohen-Cole, who may or may not be real.

Natural health advocates have been questioning the NSF for several years now, and the criticism is universally the same: Why does the NSF keep turning out factually inaccurate, hysterically grim articles? Just as important, and even more worrying, Why does the NSF refuse to correct ANY of the hundreds of errors in their record?

The answers start with the NSF founders: husband-wife team Albert Stubblebine and Rima Laibow. Now, when I accuse these people of being disinformation professionals, let me qualify that carefully. I'm not saying that they're doing sloppy research, and I'm not saying that they're being overzealous. I'm saying they are working, for pay, to spread false information and make their organization look like a legitimate activist group.

Sadly, this is not uncommon -- several news cycles back, intrepid reporters uncovered dozens of "science foundation" fronts that were falsifying data and running multi-million dollar PR campaigns to discredit the concept of Global Warming. Personally, I remain agnostic on the consensus scientific explanation behind climate change, but disinfo is disinfo. Older readers might also recall all the "grassroots" organizations that sprung up to oppose Health Care reform during the Clinton years...and even older readers probably know about a hundred similar schemes stretching back decades.

Fortunately, Stubblebine and Laibow are an easy case to make: They've literally done it before and gotten caught. See, Laibow used to be into UFO abductions, and Stubblebine used to be...well, name it. From Remote Viewing to 9-11 conspiracies, Stubblebine has been active for decades:

Major General Albert "Bert" N. Stubblebine III was the commanding general of the United States Army Intelligence and Security Command from 1981 to 1984, when he retired from the Army. He is known for his interest in parapsychology and was a strong supporter of the Stargate Project.

Stubblebine appeared in the 2006 documentary "One Nation Under Siege"[1] where he states that a Boeing 757 airplane could not have crashed into The Pentagon on September 11, 2001.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Stubblebine
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambon ... tubblebine


Stubblebine used to work with Ed Dames, pushing Remove Viewing instructional videos called Psi Tech. If you're not familiar with UFOlogy, names like Stephen Greer will be meaningless, but these people are infamous liars and all associated with Stubby.

Implications

1. The military disinformation operatives have a lot of career options when they leave the ranks. I'm betting that the income for NSF is coming from pharma and agribiz, not the DoD or Air Force, which sponsored decades of UFO disinformation and weirdness.

2. There's never just one of these operations. I'm betting as we keep digging here, we'll start to unearth a lot of green-washing from tainted sources. For instance, Linn Cohen-Cole, who's been pushing HR 875 hysteria all over Teh Internets, leads to a "social network" called http://www.farmon.com -- and her articles are syndicated all over the place, including recent placement in Huffington Post.

3. We need to be really careful about our info. The payoff with these operations is debunking hysterical, overstated and flat-out fictitious claims. UFO coverups become elaborate fantasies about Greys with hidden moon bases and government treaties. MK-Ultra CIA research becomes Illluminati sex slave mind control rings. Agribusiness poisoning our food supply becomes an NWO genocide plot where everything is always Monsanto's fault.

We gotta take the narrative back. I'm also going to work on a page for UE laying this out in a more rational, orderly, and powerful format.
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Re: Food Disinfo: Natural Solutions Foundation

Postby Justin Boland » March 12th, 2009, 12:06 pm

Source: I am a bad man and I pulled up Stubby's divorce records
http://www.courts.state.va.us/opinions/ ... 915944.txt

Albert Stubblebine, a career army officer, attained the rank of major general. During his army career, he earned a master's degree in chemical engineering. Throughout the marriage, Geraldine Stubblebine was an exemplary wife for Albert Stubblebine and an exemplary mother for their two adopted children. In addition to her duties as a wife and mother, she periodically worked outside the home in a series of part-time jobs in order to contribute to the family's income.

After Mr. Stubblebine retired from the Army in 1984, he worked for BDM Corporation (BDM), a private company, where his annual salary as a vice president was $90,000. He retired from that position in 1990 and undertook a variety of independent
consulting jobs, the last of which ended in 1993, after the parties had separated and five months before filing of the divorce proceedings. The last consulting job involved a contract that paid Stubblebine $40,000 annually.

....

Albert Stubblebine was not gainfully employed at the time of trial. He had twice voluntarily retired after two careers. He did, however, work fifty to sixty hours per week for a private organization investigating psychic phenomena and twenty hours per week organizing and managing his friend's psychiatric practice.

For these efforts, he did not receive any monetary compensation. In fact, Stubblebine testified that he was no longer interested in making money and that he had not sought paid work since 1993.

Contrary to the assertions in the dissent, we do not hold that Albert Stubblebine's support obligation arises only because
of the nature of his post-retirement activities. The nature of Mr. Stubblebine's activities following retirement are relevant
only insofar as they evince his continued physical and mental capacity to be gainfully employed. Albert Stubblebine's support
obligation arises from the current needs of his former spouse and his ability to provide that support.


"No monetary compensation" isn't entirely accurate -- later on, it turns out he was getting his "expenses" covered:

Following his second retirement, the husband served as a member of the board of directors of several small consulting companies. As a director, he received a small stipend and reimbursement for expenses incurred for the companies. He was not an employee of those companies and, therefore, received no salary.


And from his testimony:

Q Have you tried to get additional work as
a consultant?

A I have.

Q What have you found out in trying to get
additional work as a consultant?

A The defense business is dead. It's hard
to do particularly when you're out away from
the government for as long as I've been away.

Q Do you have any other skills in the
marketplace?

A Not particularly.

* * * * * * *

Q Why don't you have any gainful
employment at the present time?

A Well, my real expertise is government,
primarily intelligence, and the Defense
Department is -- other cutbacks in the
Defense Department have -- for all intents
and purposes, budget cuts have eliminated
most of the areas where I still have some
expertise, and it's just -- there isn't any.


The reason given for divorce is adultery -- so the timeline here makes the story pretty clear...TREAT is a group founded by Rima Laibow.

During his retirement and before his marital separation, the husband became a member of the board of directors of a non-profit entity, Treatment and Research of Experienced Anomalous Trauma (TREAT). The husband testified that TREAT studies, researches, and investigates psychic experiences that people report and that have no known explanation. As a member of the board of directors of this non-profit entity, his expenses for activities with TREAT are reimbursed.

However, he is not employed by TREAT and receives no salary. No evidence proved that any employment opportunity was available to him at TREAT. Also, no evidence proved that the husband could have obtained employment based on his studies of psychic phenomena.

Although the record establishes that the husband now spends most of his time pursuing his interests at TREAT, the record also establishes that the husband's interest in this matter is long-standing, intense, and consuming.


So consuming he's not talking about it at all this time around. Now he's a health crusader and UFOs are off the table.
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Re: Food Disinfo: Natural Solutions Foundation

Postby Justin Boland » March 12th, 2009, 12:27 pm

First, a round-up of critical/investigation articles:
http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1029074


...and apparently, Rima likes to threaten bloggers with lawsuits (she's gonna love Skilluminati Research) like so:

Source: one very, very angry blogger
http://hatingautism.blogspot.com/2008/1 ... lying.html

I'll skip the diatribe + profanity and just quote Rima's email to the blogger:

No, you blogged disinformation which is actionable as both slander and liable. I am curious to know just what makes you think that what you have published IS the truth? Have you seen a single shred of information which substantiates a single one of those accusations? Please be advised that you might want to think again before you continue to present material which is, rather than the truth, blatant lies since that means that you, too, are engaging in slander and liable and are opening yourself to the same legal action that the perpetrators of these lies are. Before you make that mistake, why not write to the perpetrators and ask for the documentation that their absurd assertions rest upon. You will find that there are none.
I am so sorry that you have been misled by disinformation, but that is what has happened.
Yours in health and freedom,
Dr. Rima
Rima E. Laibow, MD
Medical Director
Natural Solutions Foundation


First law of disinformation: anything that contradicts you is disinformation. Also, it's hard to take legal threats seriously when they can't spell Libel, but hey, that's good news, right?
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Re: Food Disinfo: Natural Solutions Foundation

Postby Justin Boland » March 12th, 2009, 12:58 pm

She's on TransitonUS, too: http://transitionus.ning.com/profiles/p ... aELaibowMD

Image

That's Stubby in the background rocking the huge jacket. Turns out they've got their own eco-village going, too:

am interested in learning more about the Transition movement. The Natural Solutions Foundation, www.HealthFreedomUSA.org, through its International Decade of Nutrition, www.NaturalSolutionsFoundation.org, has created the Valley of the Moon Eco Demonstration Community in the temperate, fertile Highlands of Panama and I am eager to learn more about the Transition movement.


More: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=715

Sponsoring Members

You now have an opportunity as a sponsor making a donation of $1000, $5,000, $10,000, and $50,000 up to $100,000 or more to assist the Foundation to make this important global dream a reality.

Silver sponsor members ($1,000) will receive one pound of our exceptional quality coffee per month for a year (retail value $24 per pound).

Gold members ($5,000) will receive our exceptional coffee and a three night stay at VOTMEC.

Platinum members ($10,000) will, in addition, also receive a discount for visits to the Clinic/Spa and an opportunity to bid on one of specified homesite perpetual leases within the community.

Diamond Sponsors ($50,000) will receive Gold level benefits and a homesite perpetual lease within the community.

Emerald Sponsors ($100,000) will receive Gold level benefits and one of the limited number of homesite perpetual leases in the first phase, transferable, should you desire, to a first choice site anywhere in the Valley (All donations are tax deductible).

Please contact Ralph Fucetola, ralph.fucetola@usa.net, for project overview, concept and pictures as well as questions you might have. Also , over the next two months we will be hosting visits to the site for our sponsor/donors (please put VOTMEC in the subject line).

Please - we need your assistance and your tax deductible donation will contribute to enable the Natural Solutions Foundation’s dream of a sustainable, zero emissions BeyondOrganic (TM) farm and farm school and an off the grid Eco Community with Beyond the State of the Art Health and Wellness Facility come true.
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Re: Food Disinfo: Natural Solutions Foundation

Postby docquan » March 12th, 2009, 1:45 pm

Alexander Wren of the incredibly fascinating and thorough blog Angry Scientist had a questionable run-in with Laibow and her "Posse" over the course of several months last year. Apparently Wren heard Laibow interviewed on the Gary Null show, where she repeated a number of the extravagant claims she made in her video Nutricide: Criminalizing Natural Heath, Vitamins and Herbs: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2495233634

Finding some of these claims specious, he contacted Laibow in the hopes of tracking down her sources so as to better inform Gary Null's listeners through his website's forum. The resulting email exchange is definitely worth reading: he gets patronized by a Natural Solutions Foundation rep named Kathy before receiving a dizzying defense of Laibow's claims from her lawyer, though in the end no one provided him with the sources he had requested.

I personally cannot give you the “very precise” info you seem to think is necessary, so I will forward this to her for answer when she can take time away from the Codex fight to make you happy. Since she does not carry files with her when travelling, you may simply have to develop some patience. I was not at all evasive in my answer to you- I do not personally save all the research I read and thus cannot quote it directly to you- Personally, I suggest that you go ahead and trust Big Pharma and the FDA and eat everything that the government tells you is safe– and then remember to take the stick out, so it can pass through! -Kathy


You can check it out here: http://angryscientist.wordpress.com/2008/08/08/is-dr-rima-laibow-exaggerating-about-codex/
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Re: Food Disinfo: Natural Solutions Foundation

Postby johnnybrainwash » March 12th, 2009, 7:43 pm

Good job on digging this up. I've been preparing a rebuttal of the horror stories I've heard about HR 875, so it's good to get to the source.
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Re: Food Disinfo: Natural Solutions Foundation

Postby Justin Boland » March 15th, 2009, 4:38 pm

^^Much appreciated, I'm glad someone is forging all this digging into some content. Disinfo probably justifies it's expenses just in the sheer amount of our time it can consume to ID and catalog it.
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Re: Food Disinfo: Natural Solutions Foundation

Postby anomaly » March 16th, 2009, 4:09 pm

Hola dudes,

Followed the link here from over at RI ... saw this thread and had to say ...

Thanks for digging into this. I hate calling folks disinfo and I've been curious about these two for a while.

Having come to parapolitics via the paranormal I am well-versed in Remote Viewing and the UFO scene and so am quite familiar with these two.

But until the accusations related to their health work came up I'd never had any reason to suspect anything nefarious of them.

I'll have to digest this and the other info but ... do you absolutely think they are on a pay-roll for this?

Does Rima have an intel background? I thought she was just a clinical psychologist or somesuch back when she was doing her alien abduction research. Most of what I've heard about her in the milieu is fine.

And most of what I've heard about Stubblebine is also fine. So I am at a loss trying to understand how they could have turned.

- SMiles

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Re: Food Disinfo: Natural Solutions Foundation

Postby Justin Boland » March 16th, 2009, 4:23 pm

Were they reputable members of the UFO scene, or the RV scene? Stubblebine was working with Ed Dames. Laibow's TRACE organization was working with Greer. I was not under the impression that they'd "turned" so much as found a new niche to practice the same voodoo.

As for proving who pays Laibow -- no idea, and I'm betting they're not nearly as bankrolled as they'd like to be, judging by the fact they're selling $50 per lb coffee and begging for donations to start their eco-village.

They are stirring up hysteria, consistently making exaggerated or fabricated claims, and accusing anyone who questions them of disinformation -- so my accusation is based on behavior more than any smoking gun financial records. A simple admission of fault and correction of the record would be a small step for them to take.
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Re: Food Disinfo: Natural Solutions Foundation

Postby anomaly » March 16th, 2009, 5:34 pm

Justin Boland wrote:Were they reputable members of the UFO scene, or the RV scene? Stubblebine was working with Ed Dames. Laibow's TRACE organization was working with Greer. I was not under the impression that they'd "turned" so much as found a new niche to practice the same voodoo.

As for proving who pays Laibow -- no idea, and I'm betting they're not nearly as bankrolled as they'd like to be, judging by the fact they're selling $50 per lb coffee and begging for donations to start their eco-village.

They are stirring up hysteria, consistently making exaggerated or fabricated claims, and accusing anyone who questions them of disinformation -- so my accusation is based on behavior more than any smoking gun financial records. A simple admission of fault and correction of the record would be a small step for them to take.


Yeah, the more I look into this ... ugh.

I recall Vallee publicly criticizing either TREAT or the MIT abduction conference for being a closed meeting and not inviting him.

And I see from some simple scroogling that some folks think Greer was actually calling out Laibow in his own disclosure book.

I dunno ... gonna keep an eye on them.

BTW - did you mean TREAT when you said TRACE? Or is that a different group acronym?

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Re: Food Disinfo: Natural Solutions Foundation

Postby Justin Boland » March 16th, 2009, 5:49 pm

Yep, got my catchy acronyms mixed up...
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Re: Food Disinfo: Natural Solutions Foundation

Postby JohnBoy » April 5th, 2009, 3:59 pm

I wish I could understand why these "disinformation" campaigns really exist? I am an organic farmer, and the causes that the Natural Solution Foundation is ranting about (and asking people to send petition letters) are real threats I believe. So, it's hard for me to fathom why they would be doing this. They are talking about CODEX, which is a real threat to the survival of small sustainable farmers in this country. I've read many of Linn Cole's articles and she is trying to rally us farmers and other people concerned about the future of natural food to become active. I guess I'm having a hard time wondering why they would be scams. I just signed a petition as recently as this morning sending a letter to my senators and reps about the four big "food safety" bills about to be introduced. These bills reflect the desires of the global corporations I believe, why shouldn't I join their cause?
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